This question comes from a paramedic student (hopefully this isn’t an assignment question). This student says:
I have been doing some research into automated external defibrillators (AED) and why despite over 30,000 sudden cardiac arrests occurring in Australia every year, legislation does not require our large public businesses (shopping centres, libraries, etc) to have an available AED. I was referred to you by my Law and Ethics lecturer as an expert in Emergency Law.
I was hoping you may be able to point me in the right direction as far as the current national legislation relevant to AED’s and any other legislation, etc that may prove helpful in my review of current standards.
A search of current legislation (Acts and Regulations) for the word ‘defibrillator’ shows that there is very little relevant legislation. ‘Defibrillator’ appears in the following current Acts and Regulations;
- Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2015 (Cth) – Schedule 1 General medical services table – providing for a payment for medical practitioners conducting an ECG ‘on premises equipped with mechanical respirator and defibrillator’;
- Non Emergency Patient Transport Regulation 2005 (Vic) providing that a vehicle used for transporting ‘medium and high acuity’ patients is to be equipped with a defibrillator (Schedule 9 and reg 51) and that staff are trained in how to use it (reg 24);
- Aviation Transport Security Regulations 2005 (Cth) reg 1.09 which exempts a defibrillator from the definition of a ‘weapon …capable of being used to administer an electric shock’;
- Cremation Regulations 1954 (WA) Appendix A, form 7 – where a medical practitioner is required to answer the question ‘At the time of death was the deceased fitted with a cardiac pacemaker, defibrillator or other battery operated implant or device?’; and
- Workers’ Compensation and Injury Management (Scales of Fees) Regulations 1998 (WA) – Schedule 1 which provides for payment for ‘Anaesthesia for… insertion of automatic defibrillator …’
Relevant legislation with respect to standards will be standard consumer and product legislation such as the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 (Cth) requiring that products are fit for purpose and properly designed and manufactured.
Other relevant legislation would be the relevant work health and safety laws. For example, the Work Health and Safety Regulation 2011 (NSW) requires an employer to ensure that there is provision for first aid at the workplace. As with other aspects of this Act, this requires a risk assessment. Some workplaces such as shopping centres may well consider that there is a sufficient risk to warrant putting in a defibrillator.
So why isn’t it compulsory for large public businesses (shopping centres, libraries, etc) to have an available AED? I’m speculating here but I can think of a number of issues.
First I’m told that there are 30 000 sudden cardiac arrests a year in Australia. That would equate to about 82 per day. The chance that on any given day there will be a sudden cardiac arrest we can assume is 1. But the chance that it will happen in any given location, shopping centre or library is very small. To give a personal anecdote, I’ve been trained in first aid since I was 13 years old. I have never had to do CPR simply because I was the right person at the right spot at the right time. Putting an AED in a spot, even a high traffic spot like a train station or shopping centre does not mean it will ever be in the right spot.
Even if the AED is close to a person with a cardiac arrest it does not mean it will be used. Someone would have to know that the AED is there, or likely to be there. An untrained person may not know what an AED is let alone to look for one. Even if they can see it they are unlikely to know what it is or that it is something that could be used without training. The chance that there is an AED and a trained person at the right place at the right time is even lower.
Having an AED does cost. Not only the purchase price but maintenance and training staff. Requiring premises to have an AED adds compliance costs, ie some process to ensure that the rules are being complied with.
None of this is to suggest that they are not a good idea, but one can see why businesses may not be willing to invest and more importantly, why governments may not want to compel business to invest in the equipment that imposes a cost with limited chance that it will be used.
The next issue is that this would require extensive cooperation within government. The Department of Health does not regulate shopping centres and whatever government department is regulating those places is not necessarily aware of the issue.
Regulating to impose an obligation upon private citizens and businesses to invest in equipment that may not ever be used may not be politically prudent and could well fail to meet the standards set by the Office of Best Practice Regulation. Although that office is about Commonwealth law, states are also required to consider the impact of regulations and whether the costs warrant the benefits.
It is likely that making the installation of an AED compulsory would impose significant costs to achieve limited benefit, would be politically unpopular and would be inconsistent with current trends to reduce red tape and compliance costs; but as I say this is mere speculation.
Interesting questions and response. Given the development of UAVs there has been a proposal that drones (UAVs) may be able to assist in this matter. Not sure if it is a reality now – but perhaps in the future
I wish to take issue with the training requirement cost. The AED are “Automatic” and the required training is no more than standard annual CPR refresher. But asside from that I see the argument.
I received this comment via email.
Dear Michael,
I read with interest the recent article about AEDs.
I wonder if you know of the Conference regarding Public Access Defibrillation that was held in Sydney
during my tenure at ASNSW? I was a member of the organising committee and it was generally believed to be a successful meeting of the minds on the topic. From memory, this conference involved the Heart Association, several eminent Cardiologists, ASNSW and its Medical Advisory Committee and attracted a very good cross section of “stakeholders” including sporting bodies, shopping centre managers, hotel managers etc. I am quite confident that a report was published and you may be able to access it through the Heart Association in Sydney. I would hazard a guess that it was about 1996.
As an aside, on a recent trip to Cornwall, UK, I noticed a defibrillator mounted on the outside of a building near the harbour at Mousehole. I took a photo that I share with you. If you could read the detail, you would see that it is placed and maintained by the Cornwall Ambulance Service and also provides instructions in accessing the emergency services.
Keep up the excellent flow of topics. I enjoy reading them very much,
Kindest regards
James McLachlan
Just to my earlier comment. Having today finished the LVR course of which CPR was a standard part. The instructor pointed out that the use of an AED is now a part of every CPR competency training. DRSABCD where the last D is defibrilation if an AED is available.
But the cost of maintaining one is expensive and they have to be used in conjunction with CPR.
I have spoken to my building that I work in last week about the fitting defibrillators and good first aid kits. I am blown away with the ignorant passive answer I received and I can’t believe its not law. Things have changed and as we all know as first aiders life is important and chances of survival increases with a defibrillators. I have just looked on the Internet for some answers. I have spoken with a company representative that looks after the building’s care and is a first aider himself. I had gone all the way to the top and spent a lot of time making a pack up so to make a case. But it fell on deaf ears. Im going to see my member of parliament now.
I’ve got a background in emergency response and safety/emergency response training. I’ve responded to incidents, provided consultation and training to a number of organisations. Generally I’ve found when companies have large numbers of personnel on site or the layout of the site is complex or could be timely to get ambulance services on location, most managers are concerned with taking reasonable practicable steps to protect the health and safety of their workers. The initial purchase, maintenance and training is not that expensive and as a CEO said to me once “My staff could be saving my life”. Initial cost around $2000 and replace a battery every 4 to 5 years. Use covered in first-aid courses.
To respond to some of your statements. Location of AED – covered in site inductions and in a readily accessible location for trained first-aiders that know where it is. How to use – staff have this covered in a first-aid course, it is an easy bit of kit to use, the AED will talk you through the steps. Are they beneficial to have, I dare say so, I’ve never come across a pre-hospital health care professional that does not recommend the Chain of Survival with the links being Early recognition (call for help), Early CPR, Early defibrillation and Early post resuscitation care.
Legally lawyers can argue either way for days, morally I think we know the answer.
And of course this is a blog about the law – not about moral rights and wrongs.
There are numerously more cost effective ways of reducing mortality rates than defibrillators!
At $600 for an AED I would suggest their is probably NOT a more cost effective way of saving people from cardiac arrest particularly if they are more than 20 mins from ambulance help. I will let St John Ambos tell you why!
Quote from them…
If you live or work in rural or regional Australia and are more than 20 minutes from medical help the chance of surviving a sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) are a less than one in 10.
The confronting statistics have prompted a call from the head of the Rural Doctors Association of Queensland (RDAQ) Foundation Adam Coltzau urging rural families and agricultural businesses to consider investing in their own Automated External defibrillator (AED).
“If you live on a rural property having a defibrillator may be your best and only chance of surviving a cardiac arrest,” he said.
Does anyoe know if there are any maps of where Public Access defibrillators are installed.